No-Code Talk #7

 Aron: Hey, Connor. Welcome back.  

Intro Music: Hello.  

Connor: Good. Good. Good.  

Intro Music: Thank you. How about  

Aron: yourself? Yeah. Uh, well, it's been a, it's been a, it's been a month. It's been quite the month. Uh, how were your holidays?  

Connor: They're good. Pretty relaxing. I finally took some time off. I feel like I went pretty hard towards the end of last year, so, um, yeah, I pretty much didn't do much work from about the 20th until the first of. 

Yeah this year. So it was good to relax, but yeah, then right back into the swing of  

things.  

Aron: Yeah. Well, welcome back. I hope this is you don't consider this work.  

Connor: No, this is not work. This is just having a friendly chat.  

Aron: Uh, so we've got mark, we've got Coleen. Uh, if you're, if you're new here, say hi in the chat, uh, you know, frankly, I've been up like, like you for about a month, a month and a half now. 

And I think I've forgotten everything about. Like, I don't know what any of the buns do. I'm like super stressed out that nothing is working. So please let us know in the chat, uh, you know, if you can hear us, uh, and if everything is working, um, and yeah, I'm like really excited to be back. It felt really good to get off the kind of hamster wheel of creating content of generating stuff for a couple of weeks and kind of really gave me. 

Energy to come back. So I'm really excited for 2022. Uh, I'm excited with our projects. I'm excited about no code in general. So I think it's, I think it's going to be a good year. Um, absolutely. So we've got Colleen. Uh, we've got mark welcome. Yeah. Excited to have you all back. Like, I'd love to know, uh, what are some of the things you're working on 2020 folks let us know in the chat. 

Um, and yeah. Connor, how was your, how was, how was winter? I know, you know, I'm, I'm Canadian. I know it's your kind of second proper winter, and I know we've got some Canadians in the chat, so, uh, hi, how you.  

Connor: Well, it's a lot of snow. Let's put it this way. I mean, like I knew it was going to be cold, but like of the last few days has been a lot of snow. 

So I've been, um, yeah, that's been my responsibility in the household. Just making sure to clear our balcony and, uh, the driveway. So still getting used to it. But, you know, it's nice, you know, we don't really have a lot of snow or any snow for that matter in New Zealand. So they're not multifactor of snow is still there, but I am definitely spending most of my time indoors. 

Aron: Yeah, sorry. So, uh, penny, this should be good. Now I should fix it. So let me know, uh, uh, uh, if you can hear me in both ears. So, so yeah, for folks who are not Canadian, we got what like 20, 30 centimeters, which is nine inches of snow. And I know, you know, you're the kind of like the first person I probably reached out to, to be like, are you okay? 

Have you ever seen this much snow, uh, and got on a zoom call just to make sure that you're kind of good to go. Uh,  

Connor: yeah,  

I actually couldn't believe it. Like our entire, our car was snowed in. Like we walked out. I could not believe how much snow there was. Um, it's kind of cope. Um, That. Yeah. It's, you're just getting new soap, but yes, it definitely is something that toughens us up a bit. 

I won't lie. I go for a lot of runs. I haven't gone for a run like pretty much at all this month just because I'm kind of like, let's just stick to like indoor workouts instead. Um, but yeah, I'm gonna, I'm getting used  

to it. I  

Aron: promise you. Yeah. And it only gets better. It only gets worse. Right. Petty. And how do you sell the rights? 

Uh, you know, there, there was this tweet and I know I'm like completely derailing. No co-talk but, um, there was a tweet of a kid, uh, getting interviewed on CBC. And honestly, that kid is me. You know, like chubby square glasses, totally over like, not hate doing work. Uh, so if, if, if, if I can find it, uh, between two segments, I'll show everyone both this hilarious interview, but also a spitting image of me as a kid. 

Um, and I sent it to all my friends and they're all like, oh my God, it's like you 20, you know, maybe 15, 20 years ago. Um, and, and the kids. Great. So welcome to Canada Connor officially. I think after your first, you know, 20, 30 centimeter snow storm, uh, you can consider yourself one of them.  

Connor: Yes. Thank you. 

Thank you. And, uh, just, uh, just to wrap this up, I mean, I said I've got to learn cross country skiing. So I actually did that last year and it was the first time I ever did cross country skiing. And I'm telling you now you get punished badly if you don't have good technique. So I can still feel, um, my legs from that cross country ski last year, but I'm definitely gonna give it another  

try. 

Aron: Yeah, no, it definitely, uh, it's it's, it's, it's it's technique Connor, but it's also. RTO. It's, it's a lot of things you gotta, you gotta, you gotta get to it, you know? Um, cool. What, what are, what are we talking? What are we here for Connor? Yeah, right.  

Okay. Let's get back to our agenda. So, uh, um, so, uh, yeah, I it's, it's, it's always a little weird to introduce our own project here on, uh, Yoko talk, but I think this was Connor. 

One of our things we've been working for for a while. So we wanted to spend some time. I have to start talking about code meets, no code. So, uh, yeah, Connor, I'll let you kind of take us off. Like, what is code meets? No code. Why did we decide to launch it? Uh, and, and talk us through  

a little project.  

Connor: Okay. So, um, cope meets no code in a nutshell is a website where you'll find a whole bunch of different scripts that you can use in tools like IR table scripts or postman, those types of things. 

And the idea behind it is the basically how people who might be familiar with tools like Zapier or Integromat to learn some like coding concepts that they can then use to basically build more advanced workflows and all those types of things. Then. This really started because, um, I was interested in learning a little bit more about scripting as soon as your table scripts launched, which was probably like last year, maybe a bit more. 

Um, I kind of felt like it seemed like a very powerful feature, but I couldn't use it. So, um, after watching some of your videos. Uh, on this channel, Aaron, and also doing a little bit of research. I started to slowly get into how you can potentially use scripts. And then about six months ago, I think we started jumping on calls and going over some specific things that you could do with web flow. 

And that's where I realized that, you know, now that. Gotten to the point where I understand how to set up workflows and tools like Integromat or Zapier, that it's actually not that difficult to transfer those skills into writing scripts. And, you know, because one thing that I find is like, whenever I'm learning something new and I get excited about it, that is the best time to basically share that with other people to teach other people. 

And so what we've done is we've basically started. Working on these scripts that we can share with other people and not just share with other people. We don't just want to give you something that you can copy and paste into your website. We actually want to show you how the code was created so that you can basically then go and start sitting up your own. 

Script, you can start setting up your own workflows. And I think in a nutshell, that is what code meets no  

code  

is all about. Yeah, absolutely. So some background here of, of this, that was the Polish version of what happened, but what the actual version is, is that Connor would write to me every morning, all caps. 

Aron: Oh my God. Check out the script. I just wrote. Right. And then he would link to like the Zapier integration or the workaround that he no longer had to do. And I think it was Connor's excitement, like on a daily basis of like, Hey, you know, check out this cool script where, oh my God, look at what I just did in web flow that got us thinking of like, Hey, if we enjoy this so much, I'm sure there are other folks who are, uh, you know, interested in learning and doing similar work. 

So, but yeah, really, this is it. We wanted to create a community of folks who are like us, who are interested in automating using as few tools as possible and trying to get the most out of the existing tools that they use. So we started off with three kind of series. Uh, getting started with low code, uh, which is just me kind of introing different elements that you're going to need, like posts man, Jason, and the basic stuff. 

Uh, and then Connor, uh, gave us your, or teaches us, you know, his, his most iconic script. I think the, you know, probably one of the he's most proud of, of turning web flow. Uh, Well, actually turning Airtable into your web flow CMS. Um, so yeah, maybe, maybe Connor, talk us through a little bit about, you know, if someone is interested in this, like what could they expect from this course, uh, interning web flow air table into your web. 

Connor: Yep. So, um, the way that we've approached, um, creating these libraries as we call them is we've looked at like the most common use cases for different API. So in the case of web flow, I asked myself, what are the, um, Action steps that are most commonly used. So you'll have things like create new items inside the update items inside of the CMS, uh, delete items inside the CMS, those types of things. 

And so what we did was we basically go through the process of translating all of the API docs. So in this case, the Wipro team is API docs into scripts that you can use. And it really covers everything that you would otherwise do in something like Zapier or Integromat. And so. Basically covered everything. 

You'll learn how to map the different field types from ear table to the Webflow CMS. Uh, you'll also learn how to, um, Deal with eras that come up, which will come up and in fact errors and stuff like that are things that I leave in the tutorials on purpose, because I didn't want to create the illusion that it's pretty simple, pretty simple and straightforward. 

Just copy and paste things like know whenever you're working with scripts, you're bound to run into a lot more niggly little issues. But what we did was we basically. Walk through every individual step. I show you my process for figuring out how to fix certain things. And yeah, this is basically a complete rundown of how you could potentially use scripts rather than something like, um, Integromat or Zapier to send data from IR table to web flow. 

And basically.  

Aron: Yeah. Um, it's, what's interesting is that I think it very much maps our process over the last year, plus of us creating these scripts. Right. And, and you know, this one's an air table, but we have. Kind of in the works around how to show live data in your web flow website. Uh, how do you, you know, paying third-party API APIs, uh, and the getting started series is kind of no code tool agnostic really teaches you the basics of how to use no codes. 

So, yeah, man, it's such a, you know, I don't know, I've been, I've been thrilled and, uh, with the response and the folks who are joining are really kind of, um, Um, I'm surprised of how many people are interested and, you know, I don't know, I don't know about Yukon, but it feels like the response has kind of blown me away in terms of how much people are contributing to the community, how much interest they're seeing in all the different content. 

Um, so yeah, I've just been super jacked.  

Connor: Oh, for sure. And, um, the one thing that is been, uh, yeah, like you said, one of the things that has been the best about doing this, like with a group of people for the last week is just getting to see what level, if one's at. So we've got people. You know, just really getting started with automation, but then we also have people who are super advanced. 

So we've had people in our community post tutorials into our circle community showing some pretty advanced things. Um, and so besides learning what I think is like, Exciting skill. You also connect with other people who might be a bit more advanced or be specialized in certain tools. So, um, it's been awesome. 

It's been really great. It's been really great to meet new people and yeah. Looking forward to seeing what happens  

with.  

Aron: Yeah, absolutely. So I, you know, one example and I think this is what I'm most excited about around, you know, ode meets no-code is yeah. The content we're creating and teaching other folks. 

But I think above all, what I'm excited about is the community we're creating around. Uh, low code. Right? I do think the future of no code is, you know, low code, essentially taking no code tools, but really pushing them to their limit with a little bit of code.  

So I wanted to kind of share one example that I thought was really cool in our kind of wins here. 

Uh, we had Martin if I can find it here. Uh, yeah. So one example I think was Martin. Uh, and I think that's our, that's our next segment here. So let me switch it up. Yep. Um, so someone asked like, Hey, you know, uh, I use JotForm and want to be able to sync, jot form to air table. But one of the challenges that air table has linked records with jot form doesn't, uh, and you know, Martin kind of proposed this. 

Uh, super interesting solution using a jot forms, kind of custom code ability to be able to pull in those linked records. And I think this was kind of one of your workflows, so happy to let you talk.  

Connor: Yeah. So this was actually fascinating because I didn't actually know that this was possible. And this is a use case that has come up a lot. 

And basically what it is is when someone fills out a form in JotForm and the selecting something from say a dropdown, you might want that. Define the options that are available based on information that sits inside of an ear table table. But at the moment, the only real thing that you can do in order to make that happen is to manually import those options all the time. 

So that is incredibly time-consuming. But what Martin did is he shows us how, um, he used custom JavaScript to, um, basically. Import all of the records that sit inside of an air table table and make those available in a dropdown. Field inside of JotForm, which is absolutely game changing. Because with that, you'll be able to sit up way more dynamic forms. 

You can sit up way better conditional logic. And this is a perfect example of where no code and low code intersect. And we can push a no hall beyond the boundaries  

that are currently  

Aron: has. Absolutely. So I'm not sure if I can play a YouTube video, I'm a little worried of like the feedback that, that might create a, so I just dropped the link at, uh, and Martins has, you know, a great YouTube channel around automation. 

So folks check it out. But I think more broadly, you know, what I'm most excited about is folks attributing to this community, building out and sharing their own kind of low code wins. And I think this is a perfect example of like, Hey, you know, this. Either multiple tools to use or was impossible without a tiny bit of code and folks have been super nice to share their scripts as well. 

So yeah, I'm like super it's. I'm just excited. I don't know. I keep saying it, but I'm just.  

Connor: Yeah. And obviously, you know, like we're like a week into this, we've got two modules. Um, but we're gonna be rolling out more. So the next one that we're going to be launching when Stripe releases the Stripe payment links API is how to create an Table e-commerce store where you can basically create payments. 

The Dean, um, basically allows you to create an air table store and it's pretty fun. Um, and the cool thing about this is that, um, when this launches, the Zapier or Integromat night might not have an integration with payment links, which means that this is just a really good way to skip the line and to basically learn how to script with a really  

fun use  

Aron: case. 

Yeah, absolutely. So. Perfect example of like a Stripe we'll often prioritize developers as their first primary audience, just like many other tools. Right. And then, you know, they'll think about integrating into third parties. If you kind of cloak yourself as one of those developers using a little bit of low-code, uh, you can get access to things faster and start implementing that. 

And I think this is a perfect example in. Do you Stripe Stripe payment links and you know, other, uh, kind of code, uh, and use all that functionality straight out of the gate. Okay. So that was an overview of code meets, no code. Um, do encourage folks to join. If you're interested, you can use the code first 100, uh, we're giving out discounts. 

First 100. I think we have maybe 20, 25 seats left. Uh, if I'm not mistaken on that one. So yeah, we'd love to see you in a community. If folks have any questions, reach out to us, drop it in the chat. Um, there was one question I did want to kind of address from penny before we move on is bring it up here. 

Question from penny. How does scripts compare to in suites noble? Um, happy to take this one. Um, you know, noble app is out of the box, right? So what that means is it has the advantage of installed the app, press sync. It'll take everything from your area. Abel sink it over to Webflow. Um, the disadvantage of that in my view is just flexibility, right? 

So that ability to say, I only want to sync this one. Item is not possible in a noble frankly, like more broadly. What I hope people learn from this is like, um, not how do we compare this out of the box versus scripting is just that scripting is usually the most flexible, um, Option out there because it is the basic building blocks of the tool that you're using. 

And so scripting is often just a little bit more work, uh, for the ultimate flexibility. And what we're hoping with code meets no code is that it makes that jump a little bit easier by giving you the scripts right out of the box.  

Connor: For sure. One thing that I'd add to that is that like, it is a different tool. 

I think that scripting is more advanced. If I had to make a recommendation to someone who's just getting started in no code, working with automations, definitely start with a tool like Zapier or, um, Integromat because you, it would be a lot easier for you to get to know the most important concepts of things like triggers and actions. 

Before you jump into this. Tools like, then what you'll find is that over time, there are a lot of different tools that serve certain use cases. So Nobel is fantastic for thinking entire databases at once. Zapier is good for sending individual records back and forth. And I think what you'll find is that script. 

Combines all of those together. But with that being said, it's also significantly more difficult to learn as a beginner then something like noble or Zapier or  

Integromat.  

Aron: Yeah, that's totally right. So the flexibility comes off. The cost of the flexibility is like, well, you need to learn, you know, what a JavaScript is, but you know, we're hoping to lower the floor on that. 

And, uh, make it much easier by giving you those core things you need to know and the scripts right out of the box. So a great question, penny. Uh, and if the fence suite team is here, shout out, I'm not trying to replace you. We hope that folks can get value from everything that we do. Um, yeah. Cool. Okay. Uh, boom. 

Okay. So that was it for code meets. No-code I hope to see you there. Happy to answer any questions. Um, yeah,  

let's talk about. Uh, so softer, uh, you know, particularly what I am. There's a few things I want to mention about software first. What is software? So let's go over here. Um, softer ease, a website builder built on top of air table as its data source. 

Um, and I think there's, there's a lot of these out there, but I think what differentiates, uh, Softer is its focus on like authentication or the ability to add authentication on top. And it's been extremely popular for, uh, portals, right? So maybe you want to create a client portal. You want to create a very simple e-commerce store with payment, um, and softer lets you do that. 

So you put all of your. Uh, information in air table and then softer will enable you to create client portals marketplaces online community. Um, very, very cool tool. Uh, and the reason I'm talking about it is that they just raised $12.5 million. Um, and I think this is one of those examples of one of the first examples of like the air table ecosystem kind of raising money on its own, um, or not on its own, but like on top of air table as its base. 

So I'm a big, big. Um, wanted to share a little bit about softer and I think there's a stream. We did a stream. I think there's definitely a stream I did with Yohei where he talks about creating a client portal for his investments and his investors to be able to use. And, you know, we get it up and running in less than an hour. 

So one other thing I do want to mention, so yeah, there was a, there was a peak. Uh, you know, they talk a little bit about what they're going to do. So one thing that I kind of saw here that I thought was really cool is they're focused on experts, right? So this is an opportunity if you are an Airtable user and you're looking to like add consulting on top of what you do. 

I think software is probably a really interesting option. One of those offerings is one of those growing companies. Uh, and so do recommend for. Folks who are interested in no-code want to make it a career to add themselves as a softer expert. And then when they're going from here is also similar to Webflow flow, I think be able to add template marketplace. 

Uh, right. So web flow similarly allows you to create templates that folks can reuse. We'll see if this is a monetized monetize, a bull market place or not. Right. Uh, so will you be able to sell your templates on top of softer? And if so, how do you create them? That's one thing I'm really interested and then a component store, which also is very interesting. 

It's like going that one level deeper of being, um, Sell components built on top of softer or other soft softer users, but clearly they're going after this kind of marketplace approach, take every folks that want to build on top of softer and monetize that into a business. And yeah, I'm just really excited for them. 

And I thought it's a huge win for Nokia.  

Connor: Nice. Yeah. It's actually been one of my goals to learn how to use one of those enabled back end goals this year I've wanted to create it so I can add some additional functionality that I currently can't do if we've flown a member stack. Um, so yeah, it's awesome seeing that a lot of these tools are kind of moving into that series a stage because I mean, we're for no-code tools, you know, like obviously you don't necessarily want to pick a toll there. 

Might not get out of the starting blocks because obviously as soon as you commit to one of these tools, you know, I mean, it's part of your stack and like switching in and out of tools is not ideal. So yeah. It's really awesome. Congratulations to them and yeah, I'm going to check it out  

soon.  

Aron: Yeah. And I think, you know, if I totally agree with you and I think it's one of those things of like, it's great that setting the signal of confidence that like, Hey, we will survive or the next years to come because there's nothing worse than. 

Hey, I'm going to learn those tools. And then six months later, like, oh, actually, like we went bust, right. And, and we can't use you, but I think this particular space, uh, so we have software in this space. There's pouring in the space. There's also a stacker, I think in this space, maybe a little further out and more developer focused is something like retool, right. 

That ability to take any internal, uh, um, any data source. So I think some of the. Interesting part here is we'll softer allow multiple data sources. Are they only going to stay on top of air table or are they gonna let you aggregate or, um, and how granular are they're going to be there? Their ability to build things like. 

Right. And the more things you can build on top, the more complexity you build, or it becomes difficult to use. Right. So are they going to go towards, uh, a stacker model, a retool model, uh, you know, stay in and we'll see. Uh, but yeah, I wonder, are there any stack, uh, software users seems like penny after user. 

Um, maybe we'll do another stream with them. I think that'd be interesting. Is there anything Connor you want to build on  

top of.  

Connor: Yeah. So one thing that I've been thinking about building for a while is to build a client dashboard for the Unicon factory, so that, um, Our customers can manage job board and inquiries themselves at the moment. 

A lot of it is just emails back and forth and it works, but, um, you know, creating like, uh, some backing for them would just create a better user experience. So I've been playing with the idea of it, but I've also kind of. I dunno, I haven't really jumped into it that much. So it's on the to-do list for this year. 

Aron: Yeah.  

Yeah. Um, can I, can I, can I tell you a little secret of the first thing I do whenever I see a website builder? Uh, this is, uh, cause I, I, I receive a lot of like, Hey, we just built this website builder, you know, can you, uh, check it out or whatever? Um, here's the first thing I do. I right. Click, I go inspect. 

And then I check whether they've used their own product to build their marketing site. Um, and, and honestly, I would say 60% of the time, the answer is actually, no, like they'll say that they use it, but you can tell when you compare, what's built on top of their tool and what's actually here that it's not, not the same output, but, uh, you know, Pleasantly surprised that softer in fact, use the softer to build its own website, uh, which is always encouraging. 

Shout out to them a big, big fan of using your own product. So shut up.  

Connor: Right the way I kind of approaches as I go and see if their marketing site is built and web flow. And if it is, then I obviously know that they know what they're doing. So 

Aron: that makes sense. So our rules are, if you're building a website builder, you should use your own tool, but if you're building any other tool, uh, it should be on web. Yeah. Okay. Those are the rules. So we've got some use cases in the chat. So let me bring those up. So what folks have built on top of a softer here? 

So we've got penny who built, uh, you  

know, uh,  

I don't know what you're scraping their penny, but it takes you like the website took you 15 minutes to build. So that's betting. So vote of confidence. Um, he was like, Ethan. I found some constraints and  

Connor: then, you know,  

Aron: was kind of worried that they were gonna go off the map. 

And I think now that's a really fair, uh, fear knowing now that they've raised 12.5, unless they're eating caviar three times a day. Uh, I think there'll be around for a little while. Um, um, So I, I mean, I, I I've Russian parents, so, you know, we caviar every now and then, so it doesn't mean we're going to go bust, but maybe once, once a month is your limit, even if you've raised 12.5 million,  

Connor: um, this is, I actually found a great Ethan that you, um, that you told us that, because I think a lot of like a lot of these no-code startups sometimes don't realize that. 

It is a huge consideration, like with, or not, you think they're going to be around in like a year's time, because you know, there have been no code tools that have come out with like big bang and like product hunt and everything. And then it either leads to the product, not fully working the way that it's displayed, or there's not a lot of product innovation that follows on top of it. 

And so. Yeah. I mean, um, it's a huge factor. Like it is a huge factor for me as well. I'm like, especially when it comes to the Unicon factory, I need to know that the tool is going to be around for a longer period of time, because I know that it's so difficult for me to my, uh, to like, just take it all out of my stack and add a new one. 

And so, yeah, it's  

a good  

insight.  

Aron: Yeah. Um, that's why I don't learn new tools. It's just a straight up, like, it's just so much effort and so much fear around it. Um, so, so yeah, that's a great point. Software's here for awhile. Um, and yeah, I'm really excited to see what people build. So penny, you were scraping charities from Canada helps. 

That's fantastic. Love to share the website. Love to see it. Um, So, um, so yeah, so softer, it's going to be here while we're really excited about it. Um, well, definitely have a Merriam on, was there a co CEO, if I'm not mistaken, um, to come chat and show us, uh, what they're building and where they're going to go from here. 

So, so yeah, so softer and, you know, we don't, we didn't have that much cause it's January.  

So I wanted to share, uh, so. Share some, some, some cool resources that I've found in. This is interesting to folks I'm pretty bad at like curating things I find on the web. But if this type of content is interesting to you for, for a NOCO talk, let me know, and we'll add it to the agenda in following months. 

Uh, so I just wanted to share kind of two examples of folks who I thought were creating really cool content. In addition to Martin that we showed earlier today, one is a. Was creating these like, uh, almost daily, uh, small posts. Now it takes everything I have to write once a week. And frankly, I would say two weeks out of three, I fail. 

Uh, and  

so Lola has been like really doing this daily thread and I, some of them I find really interesting. One is like a curation opportunities and no code. Absolutely 100%, despite everyone building a, uh, how to say like a job board or, uh, their first no-code project. I think there's so much to work there of like, well, I'm looking for a no coder who knows X, Y, Z, or I have this particular vertical and I'm looking to augment our operations. 

Uh, just generally I think there's a bunch of opportunities. So every one of her posts, uh, have been fantastic. And another one that I thought was really interesting was, um, One around, let  

me try to find it here,  

uh, around testing in no code yet automated testing and your no-code apps, something I've talked about and thought about very often of life. 

I have workflows across many tools across many applications. Um, and how do I test to make sure the output of those workflows, uh, is correct? So an example might be I'm expecting an email or a web hook and it doesn't trigger. Um, and frankly, this is, again, something that could be. Coders or developers have solved. 

Uh, but we're going to see trickle into no-code to say, you know, does this workflow work as expected? Uh, so this concept of testing, uh, is quite known in, um, in the developer world and is now just kind of coming to no-code code, shared a bunch of really cool, uh, for automated testing testing. Nice. Another one. 

Yeah, go ahead.  

Connor: Yeah. When I saw Waldo, I thought, Hmm, is that workflow Waldo? You can just send them like screen recording and stuff, your issues, and he'll fix them for  

you.  

Aron: Unfortunately. No, it's a different Waldo. Uh, but we're hoping that this Waldo is as, you know, pleasant and, and a great as the other Waldo. 

Uh, so. Um,  

another one I want to kind of talk about is, uh, Jason. So Jason, uh, stats, uh, he has one of my favorite, uh, uh, video people. Uh, and so Jason curated community for accountants and, uh, Jason shares kind of, uh, air table tips. And what I thought was really cool is he recently created this one hour, uh, Airtable for a accounts. 

And even better is that it actually counts towards professional development. So a lot of professional groups like accountants, or I used to be an actuary achieves. We had actual analysts. I shouldn't say I wasn't great. Um, and you have to take the development over the year and he actually created one that counts towards develop professional development around teaching accountants, how to use, uh, air table men. 

Okay. I have a delivery that just won't stop. Uh, sorry about that. Um, So just wanted to highlight those two examples of folks, creating amazing content and really serving a different vertical serving. Amazing do give both of them may follow. I'm going to go ahead and drop some links in the chat. Nice as Jason's YouTube and Lola ride Aron. 

Connor: Well, I love, I love seeing how all of these like niche consultants are popping up in the no-code space. Like, um, they're so cool. Like there, you've got a dedicated ear table accountant or accounting consultant. Um, and I think there are like so many opportunities in that space, even just seeing like how much extra inquiries we got last year on the unit confection, New Zealand for no code related things. 

Pretty amazing. So, I mean, like you said before, even like, if, even if you look at like new and emerging tools that are coming out, like softer, huge opportunities in that space to get out there consult how do sit ups and yeah. It's really awesome to see the all  

popping up.  

Aron: Yeah, absolutely. With the crazy part about Jason and you talk about a niche, but like Jason runs a large accounting firm. 

Right. So, you know, he's got a whole company around that. Uh, so really fantastic. Um, and it just creates fantastic content.  

So yeah, I think the takeaway from, I hope this no co-talk is, uh, you know, one that I'm very unlucky to have deliveries during the stream. And second 

yeah. You think, you think, okay,  

Connor: I'll let you  

do some Q and a, I just need a few questions in  

here. 

Go run a run on, off, go get your package. I was starting to feel a bit bad for them. Um, but if the eye, any questions, this is now the time for the Q and a. So yeah. You know, it's pizza, you know, he, you know, he just ordered a pizza pizza or the endless Amazon deliveries that he requests all the time. Um, but yeah. 

Yeah, by the way, just one thing I'd say is that if anyone has any projects that they're working on, we do have a segment on, um, no, co-talk where we typically review different projects, built with no-code tools. So tell us about them. So, so that we can feature it in one of the future  

NOCO talks.  

Aron: Yeah. And I'm sure, uh, Connor spoke some shit about me while I was getting my delivery. 

So, uh, if, if he did just let me send me a Twitter DM, or send me a message and tell me what he said to you all while I was gone, I'd really appreciate it.  

Um,  

Connor: yeah, it was, I stayed, it was either pizza or  

Amazon.  

Aron: It's both. Uh, I got some pizza and delivery, so, um, Cool. Well, that was this month. No, co-talk I will see you all, uh, month. 

It was a true pleasure. We're going to be back sometime in February. So please, uh, share us, share with us your projects. Show us what a cool stuff you've built over the next month. Uh, Connor, um, keep, keep shoveling, man. Just don't stop. Uh, keep working on it and, uh,  

Yeah, no, it was good. Fun. And thanks everyone for showing up. 

Connor: It's always a pleasure. Neither the tool and yeah, we'll see you back for the next one.  

Aron: All  

right. Bye. Y'all have a great week. Have a great month. I'll talk to you all soon.